Conjuring Chaos

The Loch Ness Monster Part 2

Chase and Aly Episode 39

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We are back with the Loch Ness Monster after some posting issues. (We are so sorry for the delay!) The chaos ensues with rock skipping and witches groves! Then, we tell you all about the expeditions and research done to look for, prove, or even disprove, the existence of our famed Nessie. We almost forgot, we have a very special guest on the podcast today, he's about to turn 7 years old, he LOVES to sing the song of his people, he is half Siberian Husky half Catahoula Leopard Dog, he is Chase's furbaby Beartholomew Bones, Bear for short. Our A-Maize-Ing corny joke is an absolute DUD this week, but the crystal of the week is the amazing Amazonite. Stay Chaotic!

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That's my impression of the D cylinder rumble. That's my impression of the D cylinder. Welcome to Condor and Chaos.

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We're two witchy weirdos with microphones.

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I'm Chase and this is my co-host Allie. And my ass is covered in mud. And we're here to tell you something weird.

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I swear it's just mud.

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It yeah, it's not.

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She didn't sh- Here we go. We're wearing a fucks. Let's set the vibe. What is our what is our fuck to give today? Uh, let's see, let's see. So fingers up, fox down, which we really need that right now. Um so today's leg number is 37. Ooh. I like both of those digits. And today's I don't give a fuck is I've got a fuck it attitude and get shit done mindset. Hey.

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Yeah. Just be careful with that. You never know where that's gonna get you. Let's go ahead and take our deep breath.

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Oh yeah. Breathing sounds good right now. Yeah, it does. Let's go ahead and take our deep breath in.

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And out. I think your lungs are getting a little bigger. I think so. I practiced yesterday with all the yelling. Yeah, yeah. So what's chaotic in your life, those sneak alley?

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Um, well, you got to share my chaos with me earlier today. Uh, we found a little witch's grove. And we did it. I thought that was really cute. Um, we got to go into a park in the middle of nowhere, and there were these slopes of up and down mud, and I was able to uh go across it and explore, and then there was this place that seemed like people haven't been in for a while, and it was just covered in grass and trees and these really cool plants that I don't get to see so often in just like one area, and then a little creek.

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Yeah, it was a very whimsical adventure.

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It was. I like it. Anytime that we go out to places like that, it becomes a little video game for me, and I have so much fun with it. Absolutely. So, what is uh what is your chaos?

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I was your blood sacrifice for Witches Grove.

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Yeah, yeah, that was the thing too. Um, that place was just covered in mosquitoes. It was bad. Yeah. It was so bad. So I I think I think the grove was taking its price, but for sure.

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Yeah, there were so many mosquitoes. It's like they were eating us alive because Allie kept stealing bones from the swamp.

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Yeah, there was a nice bone, a very opalescent shell, um, I got a stick. And I found a pecan.

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Oh, and we we uh skipped rocks.

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Yeah, that was really cute. I like that little um little water area. I kind of wanted to go into it, but at the same time, I was scared of it.

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Yeah, it didn't look like it would have been necessarily safe to put your body inside of. No, and the last time we went through a body of water, we got covered in leeches. Yeah, and you reminded me of that for the second time today now. And I'm gonna probably have dreams about that. So I hope I don't.

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So, uh should we should should we get chaotic today?

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I mean, we probably should. We've got quite a few a few pages here to talk more about the Loch Ness monster, so yeah, nice.

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You guys get part two. Part two out of 25, out of four. Okay.

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It's only 20 pages.

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I was thinking we'd do an episode per page.

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Yeah, well, some of the pages are like they're pictures, some don't have a whole lot to to read, to read. So that's just the sources page, but there's literally one in there that's like three and a half lines right here. One, two, three and a half. That one's five. So some some of the pages aren't super content-y, but I'll let you go ahead and get us started. Nice.

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So on today's episode, on August 24th, 2011, boat captain Marcus Atkinson photographed a sonar image of a 1.5 meter wide um for Americans 4.9 feet. Object that seemed like it was following his boat for two minutes and 23 meters. Yes, bear?

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Told you. He just wants to be pet. Oh. He's literally here because he wants to be pet. Can you say?

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Okay, what were you telling me about this guy? Object that seemed like it was following his boat for two minutes and 23 meters deep, 75 feet for Americans. Oh, that's deep. Yeah. Oh, no, it's a small fish or seal, but in April 2012, a scientist from the National Oceanography Center said that the image is most likely just a bloom of algae and zooplankton.

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Okay. Oh, and then this is the picture of the sonar itself. It's just that line there. Yeah, that line is what's following him. It doesn't look anything too crazy.

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I thought I was looking at a microscope or something. Yeah, that's right. And then the numbers here throw me off, and that's just the meters deep.

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It's uh yeah, C23.

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That's 25, that's 20. It's about 30. So if you think a monster's chasing you in the water if you have a sonar, it might just be the fauna. No, no, wait, fauna is animals. Flora. It just might be the ocean flora.

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Yep, just algae and zooplankton. Fauna and flora, yeah. Zooplankton's.

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So this next account comes from David Elder. The tourist presented a five-minute video of a mysterious fleet in the lock on 27th of August, 2013. Oh, okay, there's that thing again. On August 27th, 2013. Elder states the wave was produced by a 4.5 meter 15-foot for Americans, solid black object just under the surface of the water. He was taking a picture of a swan at the Fort Augustus Pier when he was able to capture the movement. He said the water was very still at the time, and there were no riffles coming off the wave and no other activity on the water. And uh this one has a video attached to it. Yes.

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So here's the video. This is it right here. Oh. Okay, see that was but here's other waves right in front. Literally other waves right in front of it.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. It just seems like those waves in the back are bigger. So for the people that can't see this, um it's like a flat land of water. It's literally just like a flat lake. Yeah, and in the middle of it, you can see like this dark colored it's like a line moving across, but it looks like it looks like waves being pushed toward the toward land.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. It does, it just looks like a wave. It doesn't look and you can see other waves in front of it, so it's not like there was no wind that day. He said that there wasn't, but I don't it the the looking at the water, there's definitely wind.

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Yeah, there's water going in a different direction.

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Yeah. For sure. I think that is the last of the videos, so I can exit out of that. Nice.

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Ta-da. Okay. So, um, oh, if you guys want to watch this video on YouTube, it's called Lochness Monster or what? You decide. Next account comes on April 19th, 2014. It was reported that the s satellite image of an app it was reported the satellite image on Apple Maps showed what appeared to be a large creature about 30 meters 98 feet for Americans and me. Long just below the surface of locked nests. Oh, okay, and then this one does come with a picture. And I mean, that kind of looks like a fish. It does. It does. It looks like a fish to me. Like if anybody's seen catfish um. Yeah, that's what it looks like. A catfish.

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Right? That's what it looks like to me, too, is like a giant ass catfish.

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Yeah.

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That doesn't look like a that's fish-shaped. Anything I would consider a loch ness monster or a whale shark. It looks like a whale shark, honestly.

SPEAKER_03

That could be that too. You know? It definitely doesn't look like what I would think a loch ness monster would look like. It doesn't even look like a giant squid. Agreed. Agreed.

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So you're gonna go into the searches. So we're gonna talk about the searches for the Loch Ness monster now. And um, there's quite a bit to go over. There's a lot of pictures. So Edward Mountain financed a search from July 13th, 1934, for about five weeks. I put that date right. Nice! He had 20 men equipped with binoculars and cameras positioned around the lock from 9 a.m. to 6 p.m. So just your typical nine-hour work day. Okay. Although about 21 photos were taken, none of them were considered conclusive.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, right. That's a lot of photos. Did they just try it the one time? Like the one day? Five weeks. Oh, okay, for five weeks straight.

SPEAKER_02

So they only got 21 pictures in a five-week time span. Well, pictures were worked a lot slower back then, right? That's a good point. You had to like stand still and like not smile. Yeah, yeah. You already seen A Million Ways of Die in the West. Yes. When the family catches fire at the fair. Oh my god. Classic. Such a funny movie. So dumb. I love it. The Lotnes Phenomena Investigation Bureau, L M P I B, a UK-based society formed in 1962 to search for Nessie, received a grant for $20,000.

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Wow.

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From World Book Encyclopedia to fund a two-year program of daylight watches from May to October. I wonder if they really thought they were gonna find anything. I mean, World Book Encyclopedia. Yeah. Like they must have really wanted information on this to put in their book. You know what I mean? They put a lot of money into it. They encouraged groups of self-funded volunteers to watch the lock with film cameras that had telescopic lenses. On any given day, about 80% of the lock surface was covered. Wow. That's pretty decent. The equipment they would use was 35mm movie cameras on mobile units with 20-inch lenses. That's really long. And sometimes they would use one with the 36-inch lens. Three feet. A three-foot camera lens. That's insane.

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Holy shit. It's funny because um I was about to say, like, I'm thinking of like those ridiculous like cartoon cameras where it stretches like out five feet. Nope, that's really what they were doing.

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That's literally what they were doing. So apparent apparently 1,030 members were in this group and none of them caught any evidence of Nessie.

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That sucks. Yeah, it does. I'm I'd be a little pissed. You know what? I uh again, I'm starting to understand your skepticism. Right. I was a total believer in sea monsters. I love sea monsters.

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I was a believer in Nessie too. Past tense. I'm sorry, I told you, I tried to warn you that this was gonna happen. Yeah, I was I tried to warn you, but you did not believe me.

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I'm just kidding.

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In 1972, a group of researchers from the Academy of Applied Science, led by Robert H. Rhines, conducted a search for Nessie using sonar to detect unusual activity. Rhines took precautions to avoid murky water with floating wood and debris. A submersible camera with a floodlight was submerged to record images below the surface. If Rhines detected anything on the sonar, he would turn the light on and take pictures. On August 8th, he identified a moving target about six to nine meters, 20 to 30 feet in length for us Americans. According to author Roy Macle, the shape was a highly flexible, laterally flattened tail, or the misinterpreted return from two animals swimming together. The floodlit camera obtained a pair of underwater photographs, both which depicted what appeared to be a rhomboid flipper. And here's the pictures. That is a big flipper. That looks like a flipper, right? But it does look like a whale flipper.

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They look slightly different in each picture. It was moving. It was doing the thing that it needs to do. Right.

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That's exactly what it was. That has to be the case. Do you want the next few pages, Ali?

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Yeah, sure. Why not? You know, I thought this episode was gonna be a little bit longer, and I think we got a short episode. We might.

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The last page is long, though. You know what we should do before we go on to the next pages? I have. That was a cool sound.

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You have the thing that um I've been seeing grow a lot more rapidly this season. I was about to tell you, I was driving over here and there was a whole field, and there was just a few stocks that were just like coming right up. And for those of you that don't know what I'm talking about, it is time for Chase's amazing corny joke.

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Um, so why did the girl bring a ladder to school? Um I can't think of anything. Because she wanted to go to high school. Oh. It was so bad. That was pretty bad. So bad. Is there a boo on here? Y'all could hear my dog being miserable about that joke, even. That was terrible.

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That was a joke.

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That was a joke. No, no, no, no.

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I can't tell if that's a statement.

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The joke was terrible. I agree. You said that was a joke. Yes, that is a fact. It made my dog depressed. Now he's crying.

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Oh.

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I know, bear.

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It's okay. We'll get back to the Lochness monster, I swear.

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Do you want to hear more about the Loch Ness? Yeah? Yeah. Okay, we'll tell you about the Loch Ness, okay? Okay. Go ahead, Allie. Tell us about the Loch Ness monster.

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The strobe camera caught two large objects, objects surrounded by a flurry of bubbles estimated to be at about nine meters 30 feet. So this is what those fins were attached to then.

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It does look like two things dancing with each other in the water, right? You know what I mean? Like when they like float in like a weird circle formation.

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It does look like a large, maybe. Yeah, I would say like a shark or but this picture underneath, this one seems more of like what I would think a Lochness would look like. For real. Tell me about that one. So in 19, so I like how I'm gonna keep saying Lochness, and I'm just saying River. It's a lake. It's the monster of the Loch Ness.

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Oh, yeah, yeah. You're just saying the lake's name. Mm-hmm. It's okay. We know what you mean. We know you mean Nessie.

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In 1975, Rent conducted a second search. One photograph appeared to show the head, neck, and upper torso of a plesiosaur-like animal. But there were no current sonar findings in the area. Okay, this one's a little bit more plausible.

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It does. It looks like there's like a neck and a it looks like it's like rolling on its back, you know? Or like some. I mean, it's just a big fish that threw up. A big fish that threw up. Oh, it tons out. Oh yeah, I see there's its mouth, its eye, a top fin, a back fin. I got you. It just got a long ass tongue.

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Additionally, another photograph was taken that looked roughly like a horn gargoyle face. Oh my god.

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Along with some strange wakes at the surface. And yeah, no, this does look like a weird gargoyle face. I don't know what the hell I'm looking at, to be honest. This is not a picture of the Loch Ness monster, though.

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The way that they're seeing it is like antennas, forehead, nose, eye, neck.

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If I'm looking at it, this looks like a face up here, and it looks like a person doing this.

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Oh, it does kind of look like being afraid.

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I don't like looking at that because that picture scares me. I'm afraid. Yeah, if we're treating it like a Rorschach test. I see somebody screaming. Right? What did that say about me? You can read the inscription on the photo too, if you want. So this is what it's described. I wonder if this is in a book or something, because it has the text on the bottom, like usually from a book. Or a newspaper? Yes. Where it says left. The top photo taken at long range through a Questor telescope during 1975 expedition shows twin wakes created by small projections moving down the lock. It was circulated that these wakes were about a foot apart, interestingly. Agreeing well with distance between time. Horns on the head shot. Okay. Now it looks like a giraffe, a very sad giraffe. Right? Like an alien giraffe. The tree stump was later filmed during Operation Deep Scan in 1987 that looks extremely similar to it.

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So it was basically a tree stump all this time.

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Oh that makes sense. Tree stumps look like scary things a lot of the time.

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Yeah. I have a really cool piece of wood. It's freaky looking, actually. Can you do the roo-roo-roo? You gonna sing to mom? You going to talk to me? Oh, it's because there's people out there. He can hear me. Yeah.

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I love you.

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He hears people talking about it. He can hear them. I love you too. I love you too, boo. Told you. You're gonna say it ra-ray. You do the roo-woo-roo, make the chupaka noise.

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Good boy.

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Come here, baby. Let me tell you a secret. In 2001, Ryan's Academy of Applied Science videotaped an object on the floor of the lock resembling a carcass and found marine clamshells and a fungus-like organism not normally found in freshwater locks. That's pretty cool. In 2008, Ryan's theorized that the creature may have become extinct because the animals may have failed to adapt to temperature changes resulting from global warming.

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That's a stretch. Right? I know. So now I'm gonna tell you about Operation Deep Scan. Ooh. I know that sounds interesting, right? Right?

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It's not.

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So it was conducted in 1987, and they used like 24 boats carrying echo-sounding equipment. They were deployed across the width of Loch Ness while sending out acoustic waves. So this is um like a higher level of sonar essentially. They just send out the waves and whatever bounces back. Um it can tell like how far it is based on how long it takes for it to get back. So that's how it like creates its image.

SPEAKER_03

Isn't that what they do in space too? Time, I think, I don't know. I think I think that's how I don't know if it's it's a common way for them to see like underground. Yeah. Maybe that's what I'm thinking of is underground.

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Yeah. So the scientists did make sonar contact with an object of unusual size, but after rescanning the area, the images seemed to indicate debris at the bottom of the lock. However, there seemed to be motion in three of these pictures. And it's believed that they might be seals that had entered the lock. Started floating. Isn't this the most like the most like whiplash you've ever gotten from the room? Yeah, because it's like and they found this, but it was just this. But they found this! And seals, it's whiplash. Sonar expert Daryl Lawrence, I my slint, simultaneously examined a sonar return indicating a large moving object at the depth of 180 meters, which is about 590 feet. He said there's something here that we don't understand, and there's something here larger than a fish. Maybe some species that hasn't been detected before. I don't know.

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I mean, there's a whole bunch of stuff underwater. That we haven't been able to like right.

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And it's too dark in that water to apparently like get a scuba diaper or something. Oh really? I don't know. I didn't hear about them doing that ever, so I'm like, I don't get it. I don't get it. Why are you just taking trying to take pictures? Yeah, you would think that like by 2003 somebody must go hunting. Right. Well, you would think that by 2003, when the British Broadcasting Corporation sponsored a search of the lock using 600 sonar beans and satellite tracking, that they would have found something or put some scuba divers in there. But no, we just want to blast sound at the problem. I do that too. It sounds more like screaming and cursing, but I don't remember where it's at. During that expedition, the equipment had high enough resolution to identify a small booby. However, they did not find any oversized animals. I heard booby. Nope, buoy. And despite their hopes, the scientists that conducted this search sadly admitted that this proved the Loch Ness monster was a myth. After the search was over, searching for the Loch Ness monster aired on BBC One.

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Hmm.

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Maybe if we look it up, we can watch it sometime.

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Go home. Adrian Shine of the Loch Ness Project and Visit Scotland supported a survey of the loch using an underwater robot that was operating by Kongsburg Maritime.

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They're literally just throwing money into a lake. Literally. Literally.

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It's like a garden until fire. Literally. It's the same. So while investigating, they found a Nessie prop that was created for Billy Wilder's 1970 film, The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes. Okay. Wally Beavers had originally designed it with a neck and two humps, but Wilder didn't like the humps and ordered he remove them, which altered the buoyancy of the prop, causing it to promptly sink into the lock during a first filming test. Okay. Did y'all hear the airplane? I hope you heard the airplane. So it didn't even make it on screen. I don't think it even really made it on screen. Or if it did, it was very brief. And then in June 2018, an international team of researchers from the universities of Otago, Copenhagen, Hall, and the Highlands and Islands did a DNA survey of the lake. Oh, what? They were looking for unusual species and large fish, and the results were no DNA of large fish, such as sharks, sturgeons, and catfish could be detected. I guess that kills our theory of the big ass catfish. The otter or seal DNA, no otter or seal DNA was obtained. Okay. Which goes against a lot of the theories of what these videos and pictures are of. There was a lot of eel DNA. Can eels like come up out of the water like that? Maybe they can like jump in. I think they can, but I mean a 23-foot eel or something. That's how deep something was. Was 23 meters. Eels probably can grow. I mean, a moray eels can. Let's see. How big can an eel get? See, this one says 4.9 feet was the length of the sonar one. I don't know. A moray eel can get pretty big. When you live on a reef and have two sets of teeth. That's a moray. Sorry, couldn't help myself. I hope you enjoyed my serenading. Uh, we're about two inches to 13 feet. That makes sense. That makes a lot of sense. The leader of the study, Professor, Professor Neil Gemmel of the University of Otago. I hope I'm saying that right. O-T-A-G-O, stated he could not rule out the possibility there are eels of extreme size, although number none were found or caught during the expedition. And that is where I'm gonna leave us off on episode number four of the Rockness Monster. My sources are TetraZoology, Wikipedia, and National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

SPEAKER_03

Nice. So I like that people were so interested in this that multiple people went out.

SPEAKER_02

And just dumped money in the lake. Yeah, into a lake. They might as well just open their wallet. Not even open the wallet, just take it out of their pocket and just skip that bitch across. Like we did with those rocks earlier today. You know what I mean? Wild.

SPEAKER_03

But it helped them understand the lake a lot better, like now they know what lives in the lake.

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Exactly. Right. Well, at least we know it's probably an eel. Right? At this point. A big one. Or waves. Yeah, waves. Wind. Literally wind. Like that one video? Let's do some abstract advice. Pick a couple of them out. Now that blue's really popping, huh? It really wants you to read both of those, so. The universe is happening right now.

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Let's see what happens. So, just that way we don't cut this video too short. Um, we are gonna go into some abstract advice for today. So, today's advice do it for the plot. Accountability is for sequels.

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Oh, why does that feel like a Tom Cruise explanation for his movies?

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Johnny Cage.

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Yeah.

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I think that's who he was supposed to be. Tom Cruise.

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You know what's really funny is that as we were watching the movie, and this guy comes up, I'm like watching his intro into the movie, and I'm like, who is this guy? Wish Tom Cruise.

SPEAKER_03

The funny thing is, um, I know him because he plays Butcher on the boys. And um it is just so fun to see the range of character that he has.

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I know him for as Cooper from Red Two. Oh, yeah.

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He does really good in that movie. Let's see. So the second piece of advice not every meeting needs you. Decline with confidence. Confidence. That's nice. Yes, it is.

SPEAKER_02

So, Ali, do you want to tell us about a rock? Yeah, I'm gonna be a good one. I have a guess of what it is based on what it looks like in the picture.

SPEAKER_03

It looks like the blue stuff Walter White was cooking.

SPEAKER_02

It looks like wow, I haven't watched that, but I know exactly what show you mean by. Uh to me it looks like Amazonite. Amazonite?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I wouldn't be I'm not as expert on the rock, so I wouldn't be able to tell. But I can tell you that it's very beautiful blue.

SPEAKER_02

It looks like an Amazonite chunk to me, like because it's got the blue, it's got the veins, and then it's got like some white crystals in it. It's got like some of the rocky.

SPEAKER_03

So like cross quart quartz setup.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, kinda, kinda sorta. It looks like amazonite to me. Let's see. Amazonite, yay!

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Nice! Two for your rocks, two for eighty. So, what it is, amazonite is a brilliant blue-green mineral named after South America's famed river. The best Amazonite comes from Colorado. Hey, nice! Hopefully, if we that's not ironic at all.

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Yeah, it's Amazonite, but it comes okay, okay. The Amazon stretch through the Colorado.

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They just took big ass steps and who needs it. Teeth grinders, anyone struggling with Mercury retrograde?

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Oh.

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When's the next time that happens? Um, I can actually tell you I have an app on my phone for that. We have apps for everything you need to do. It will actually start on next Tuesday, and that's also a full moon. So the 29th is the first day of retrograde, and it's a full moon. So yeah, that's great.

SPEAKER_03

Lovely. Where to put it? Place Amazonite below the throat. Relax your jaw and ask for the courage to speak your truth. I don't like that.

SPEAKER_02

Don't eat it. I don't need to speak any more of my truth. I've done that. I've done enough truth speaking. I need to stop, actually.

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When is it best to be used? When your inner child wants a real talk with you, ask yourself what little you really want from life. Does it sound like what current you would want if you could just let yourself want it? Perfect. I can't read that right.

SPEAKER_00

I like your face. Okay, it's not just me. It's not just you. It's just a weird sentence.

SPEAKER_02

But um, it's pretty much say if you're in life go with the flow, and if you don't like the flow, pick a different a different route in the room. Pick a different flow.

SPEAKER_03

Pick a different flow. I wish I could pick a different flow sometimes. And it's like now say it out loud for the whole universe to hear and go make it happen. But I can't even say the goddamn sentence. That's funny. But this uh this rock's motto, speak from your heart. Speak from your heart.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, well, I did that yesterday.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, you you did a lot of this. You don't even have the Amazonite with you. You're just Amazonite. It's because you're amazing. I'm just gonna call it amazing.

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I need to take all the Amazonite out of my house, is what I need to do.

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Find a new nesting egg for your rocks. Um but yeah. So, is there anything else that we have for today? No, I think that I think that that's it. Nice. Well, thank you guys for listening to Conjuring Chaos. Make sure to hit that subscribe button and look us up on the social medias.

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